Biden and Ukraine

The latest political flap has some very troubling reverberations if followed thru. There is a very big danger that the whole of the whistle blower legislation and trust could be broken like a twig IF the democratically controlled judiciary committee has it’s way. If they force the whistle blower to testify, then the whole of the anonaminity part of the program will be thrown out.  There is a guarantee that when you report something at this level you will not be identified. I leave you to think about that for a bit.

In the mean time here is another thought. Just how is the media able to report that in this case, Trump asked the Ukraine Pres. 8 times to investigate Biden??????? I mean it was a secure call, transcripts never released, congress has not even seen it. And here we are to believe this stuff? and then there is the latest point that came out??? that the whistle blower was not directly involved in the phone call??? huh??? a 3rd person whistle blow? So just where is the media getting it’s information from? a better spy network than the cia???? Or a planted release by the left?

So a recap of where we are at?

Biden’s son gets a give me job with a gas company, making a LOT of money for doing nothing. the gas company comes under investigation by the Ukraine govt. at or about the same time, as the VP Biden calls for the ouster of the prosecutor and threatens to withhold a billion dollars. And we are told that other governments wanted the prosecutor gone too. Years later Biden boasts that he got the Ukraine prosecutor fired. fast forward a bit, as President, Trump talks to the Ukraine President and supposedly (we don’t know we haven’t seen the tapes yet) asks him to look into the bit with Biden getting the Prosecutor fired due to his son. He claims no quid pro quo. six months later we hear of a whistle blower complaint(where did that leak start???) that never made it to congress like they think it should have? Now hearing that DOJ determined that it did not meet the criteria for a congressional notification. And now we have the left calling for impeachment of the President for him simply asking(did he or didn’t he?) the Ukraine Pres. to look into it, claiming that Trump was doing this as a political ploy against Biden. It seems that is the big outrage we are hearing, nothing about the possible underhanded and maybe unlawful threat by Biden.

And all of this,  based on top secret information?

This seems to be a pattern. Trump will hear about something, will ask for an investigation, the dems get outraged, call for his impeachment. The original investigation gets sidelined and its all about how Trump did something that may have been wrong.


8 thoughts on “Biden and Ukraine”

  1. Deborah Shipley The Obama administration gave Ukrainian justice a list of ‘untouchables,’ including people close to Soros
    145 5 14:11, 24/09/2019
    The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under Barack Obama gave the Ukrainian general prosecutor in 2016 a list of “untouchables” who should not be prosecuted or investigated.
    Yuriy Lutsenko explained in an interview with The Hill in March 2019 that U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch gave him a list of people who should be exempt from prosecution in Ukraine as soon as he was appointed general prosecutor of Ukraine in 2016, Lutsenko said.
    The former general prosecutor of Ukraine, Viktor Shokin, was fired in March 2016 as a result of pressure from then-Vice President Joe Biden while investigating the company where the politician’s son Hunter Biden worked.
    All this happened in the middle of the 2016 presidential race and the main organization protected by this list issued by the Obama administration was under the NGO conglomerate of speculator George Soros, AntAC (Anti-Corruption Action Center).
    AntAC is a nonprofit organization co-funded by the Obama administration and speculator George Soros that since 2012 has received 59 percent of its budget of nearly $1.7 million from state and justice-related budgets and nearly $290,000 from the Soros International Renaissance Foundation, according to the group’s donor disclosure records.
    According to the Ukrainian prosecutor, the U.S. Embassy wanted to stop the ongoing investigation into this organization suspected of improperly diverting $4.4 million in U.S. funds to fight corruption in Ukraine.
    “The implied message to Ukraine’s prosecutors was clear: Don’t target AntAC in the middle of an America presidential election in which Soros was backing Hillary Clinton to succeed another Soros favorite, Barack Obama, Ukrainian officials said,” investigative journalist for The Hill John Solomon wrote.
    Solomon further revealed that AntAC was collaborating with FBI agents investigating the commercial activities of then-Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.
    The Democratic National Committee asked Ukraine for ‘dirt’ on President Trump
    The Ukrainian Embassy in Washington said in May that a member of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) requested ‘dirt’ on Donald Trump’s campaign director, Paul Manafort, and even tried to implicate the Ukrainian president, according to The Hill.
    Ambassador Valeriy Chaly’s office said that DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government about Paul Manafort’s dealings within the country in the hope of forcing the issue before Congress.
    According to The Hill, Chalupa even tried to force Ukrainian President Peter Poroshenko to comment on Manafort’s alleged Russian ties during a visit to the United States amid an election campaign.
    “All ideas floated by Alexandra were related to approaching a Member of Congress with a purpose to initiate hearings on Paul Manafort or letting an investigative journalist ask President Poroshenko a question about Mr. Manafort during his public talk in Washington, D.C.,” the Ukrainian ambassador explained in a written response to an interview with The Hill.
    But the DNC was not alone in using its influence over the Ukrainian executive to weaken Donald Trump in the midst of the electoral race.
    “The Obama White House invited Ukrainian law enforcement officials to a meeting in January 2016 as Trump rose in the polls on his improbable path to the presidency,” Solomon wrote in April.
    “The meeting led to U.S. requests to the Ukrainians to help investigate Manafort, setting in motion a series of events that led to the Ukrainians leaking the documents about Manafort in May 2016,” he added.
    It was recently learned from Joe Biden himself that the former Ukrainian general prosecutor was fired as a result of his pressure on the Ukrainian executive.
    Biden told a group of foreign policy specialists at the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018 how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 to fire Shokin immediately or the Obama administration would withdraw $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees.
    More and more evidence is emerging that seems to prove that there was collusion, interference or pressure in Ukraine, but these were carried out by the Democratic Party, its donors, such as the controversial George Soros, and Obama’s White House with the aim of raising Hillary Clinton to the presidency of the country.

  2. an excerpt from the washington times article on hunter biden showing how bad the collusion was. make note of who was the head of the company and where the approvals came from. (note the date 2014, 2016 was when biden got rid of the prosecutor)
    By Stephen Braun – Associated Press – Saturday, June 7, 2014
    WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden’s weekend trip to support Ukraine’s fragile democracy comes soon after his youngest son was hired by a private Ukrainian company that promotes energy independence from Moscow.

    The company leases natural gas fields in the breakaway Russian-backed state of Crimea and is owned by a former government minister with ties to Ukraine’s ousted pro-Russian president.

    The hiring of Hunter Biden, 44, by Burisma Holdings Limited in April was approved by the company’s owner, a former senior minister and political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, the exiled Ukrainian president. Yanukovych fled to Russia in February after protests erupted over his efforts to establish closer economic ties with Moscow.

    Hunter Biden’s employment means he will be working as a director and top lawyer for a Ukrainian energy company during the period when his father and others in the Obama administration attempt to influence the policies of Ukraine’s new government, especially on energy issues.

    There’s no indication that Hunter Biden, his father or Burisma are crossing any legal or ethical lines, although ethics experts appear divided over the implications of Hunter Biden’s new job.

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